tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post7242768854803060597..comments2023-03-28T05:51:09.137+01:00Comments on think/rant: Why Karma Is ImmoralJohn Stablerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16040887129341211890noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-82861518074486826152017-01-15T10:55:04.863+00:002017-01-15T10:55:04.863+00:00Currently, there is no conclusive evidence for eit...Currently, there is no conclusive evidence for either the presence of a soul or some higher objective truth. <br />At least not scientific evidence. Any other form of evidence will probably be rejected by you.<br />I do not seek to convince you that it is true or not.<br />As I said earlier, ignoring somebody's suffering justifying it with karma, will cause bad karma for you. Balancing of karma happens across many rebirths, each with their own set of good karma and bad karma.<br />Following this theory, there must be infinite deaths and rebirths, which is why we should try to escape it. This escape is known as achieving Nirvana, or uniting with Brahman, etc.<br />Karma is natural law. Cause and effect. Reaping what you sow.<br />There is much more to this in fact, which someone much smarter than me can explain more eloquently. <br />What is want to put across is that the system of karma is not immoral, it is amoral. And it is the most logically consistent system I have read about. <br />I don't believe in any hell or heaven, or in any God. As far as humans are concerned, karma is a natural law that even gods can't interfere with, so it unnecessary for any worship.<br />I don't know about the Original Sin, so I will not comment upon that. But really, victim blaming is the completely wrong lesson to take from the karma theory.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-6523375300077646482017-01-12T14:11:15.771+00:002017-01-12T14:11:15.771+00:00Appealing to "timeless souls" doesn'...Appealing to "timeless souls" doesn't help persuade anyone but the already existing believer. You need to first demonstrate the existence of a "soul" and "the truth"; then we can talk. Your post-hoc rationalisation reminds me of the knots Christians tie themselves in to explain Original Sin (an immoral dogma).John Stablerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040887129341211890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-60227796055054198922017-01-11T06:11:49.426+00:002017-01-11T06:11:49.426+00:00Karma isn't about good or evil at all. It just...Karma isn't about good or evil at all. It just means action, or rather it represents cause and effect. Ignoring someone's suffering justifying it with sins of their past life is just as bad as actively causing the suffering. <br />As the theory of karma rests on the premise that reincarnation takes place, we cannot say that all repercussions will take place in this life. It will extend to several rebirths.<br />As to why we need to suffer for the actions of our previous reincarnations, whom we have no knowledge of, even though it seems unfair, it can be explained. <br />The soul, or your consciousness, is timeless. Even though your body and personality might change, to that of a human or animal, your soul will exist forever. <br />To escape this cycle of suffering, i.e, this cycle of death and rebirth, one must obtain the Truth, to recognise that they are one with their soul, all a part of the cosmos, its entirety termed Brahman. <br />This quest for truth will likely be impossible for humans right now, as we are. But does that mean that we should not make an effort?<br />Defeatism is beneath us. Accept the lack of meaning in this world, that the question of purpose is one that will not be answered any time soon. It is as good as a lack of meaning. And that is fine. We humans must unite and try to reduce the suffering in this world. <br />We are all in this together. <br />Isn't it better to have a happier home?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-51705832263907860782014-03-08T20:47:47.220+00:002014-03-08T20:47:47.220+00:00I know someone who was raped as a young boy and ha...I know someone who was raped as a young boy and had his parents say that he deserved it for past life transgressions... That bit about Rape isn't theoretical. His parents thought like that.Erynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15156068108313983066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-14326492588172152962013-10-18T00:25:40.569+01:002013-10-18T00:25:40.569+01:00What also bothers me about karma is that people th...What also bothers me about karma is that people think that if you're having a crummy day it's because of something you did wrong in a past life. Bull, bad things just happen sometimes. It's an excuse not to use free will. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-73910427065609119992013-05-23T09:17:34.851+01:002013-05-23T09:17:34.851+01:00Karma is all about confirmation bias. If a believe...Karma is all about confirmation bias. If a believer sees someone apparently getting what they deserve then it confirms the existence of transcendental justice. All counter-examples are ignored or rationalised away.John Stablerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16040887129341211890noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4972016399196310707.post-85925609674833395202013-05-22T05:46:09.724+01:002013-05-22T05:46:09.724+01:00Very nice article. I think superstitions are rein...Very nice article. I think superstitions are reinforced by chance and this is what leads to people believing in karma? It's almost baked into the cosmos that karma will sometimes appear to be true based on random actions that appear to support it. Kinda disconcerting. In other words, the imperfection and evil will continue . . . the false beliefs will continue. The bronze-age superstitions will continue forever :-(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com